tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post2627906301340474148..comments2024-03-18T07:16:20.270-04:00Comments on The Gossips of Rivertown: Collecting Hudson and Rearranging ItCarole Osterinkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16010623982526286408noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-34768955564331665522012-07-30T02:35:47.871-04:002012-07-30T02:35:47.871-04:00Unheimlich,
Why should you"fear them"[HD...Unheimlich,<br />Why should you"fear them"[HDC]? by "exploring the possibilities of unethical conduct at the HDC" ? What advise was given by your <br />"knowledgeable friend" TO "FEAR THEM"?[HDC] <br />That would be helpful for the rest of citizens of Hudson to know.<br />What would make you,Unheimlich, of all people,<br />be afraid and<br />"not to pursue this further" and just back down and proclaim "Obviously this city does not belong to it's taxpayers.Hudson is growing more vicious ,not less"<br />Not that, that is any earth shattering news,<br />but the fact it shut you up and you backed down,<br />when certainly you have done a great service to this community by NOT being intimidated<br />by anyone in the "City" hierarchy before:<br />I sincerely find this highly alarming.<br />Would you be able to explain this further? Thanks.Prison Alleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10059050028975347899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-70233867269462504982012-07-27T08:24:44.881-04:002012-07-27T08:24:44.881-04:00After drafting a letter exploring the possibilitie...After drafting a letter exploring the possibilities of unethical conduct at the HDC, a knowledgeable friend advised me to fear them and to not send the letter. He made a good case, and so I'll not pursue it further.<br /><br />Obviously this city does not belong to its taxpayers.<br /><br />Hudson is growing more vicious, not less.unheimlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00204285837938988668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-39675259262027543652012-07-26T18:11:10.792-04:002012-07-26T18:11:10.792-04:00The fact that the HDC has made a misleading judgem...The fact that the HDC has made a misleading judgement on the contents of the LWRP in advance of the document's properly assigned interpreters may represent some sort of an ethical breach. I intend to find out. <br /><br />Has the organization outstripped whatever limitations were placed on it at its inception?<br /><br />Even though the public barely knows what it is, the arrogance revealed in the above analysis suggests that the HDC should be disciplined.<br /><br />But to whom are they accountable? If to no one, then maybe Hudson is better off if the HDC is dissolved.unheimlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00204285837938988668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-13317055729558593312012-07-26T10:35:20.618-04:002012-07-26T10:35:20.618-04:00Mr. Mendolio's failure to reply has revealed m...Mr. Mendolio's failure to reply has revealed much about the nature of the Hudson Development Corporation itself.<br /><br />From whence does the HDC derive its authority to pronounce on such topics? <br /><br />Exactly why should Hudson taxpayers simply trust this entity? <br /><br />As a quasi-governmental body, to whom is it accountable? <br /><br />Do citizens risk being sued if they challenge the integrity of the HDC's citizen board members? <br /><br />To review, the HDC announces that any plan to house a plastics extrusion factory in the old Kaz warehouse is "not allowed" according to the city's new LWRP. Local residents breath a sigh of relief and the HDC appears to have our backs.<br /><br />But upon closer inspection the pronouncement is wrong, and maybe even dishonest. <br /><br />In fact, the amendments to the Zoning Code which were the principle action of the LWRP conditionally permit the "converting" of such materials in the zone where Kaz lies. <br /><br />As we see from the Society of Plastics Engineers, plastics extrusion is a variety of plastics "conversion":<br /><br />http://www.4spe.org/online-store/plastic-conversion-processes-concise-and-applied-guide<br /><br />The Residential Special Commercial District confines such conversions to "light industry" only, thereby deferring decisions about the suitability of any specific manufacturing to some body other than the HDC.<br /><br />Where the LWRP is concerned, the mayor is to appoint a Consistency Review Board which would evaluate, for example, whether the manufacturing of plastics is consistent with the policy standards of the LWRP; such policies as the expediting of permit procedures for the redeveloping of deteriorated buildings for industrial uses.<br /><br />I hope I've made it abundantly clear that the HDC is in no way authorized to interpret the LWRP for anyone. The HDC not only has no role in any LWRP procedure, but by pronouncing on what the waterfront program does and does not allow the HDC is already usurping the role of a political body that has yet to be appointed (by the mayor).<br /><br />And now it appears that the unacceptable conduct of the seemingly unaccountable HDC is above public criticism. <br /><br />I'm afraid that we've still a long way to go before reaching that hopeful comment above, whereby Hudson's fate will be guided by "the individuals who have invested sweat equity in Hudson." If we don't pay close enough attention to how the place is actually run, the hope of overwhelming and surviving is little more than a pipe dream.unheimlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00204285837938988668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-47482703318920071982012-07-25T22:24:11.494-04:002012-07-25T22:24:11.494-04:00Now ^ rhat's VISION thank youNow ^ rhat's VISION thank youVincenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05548912912359709568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-1743895476472254732012-07-25T20:51:17.313-04:002012-07-25T20:51:17.313-04:00@tmD, that's a good idea too, but many agree t...@tmD, that's a good idea too, but many agree that the building will likely have to come down. (If you doubt that, go have a look for yourself and factor in the required asbestos remediation.)<br /><br />It's what Mr. Mendolio sees as a likely use of the site that irks me, once you totally ignore what he supposes I "hold dear." (We hardly know one another.)<br /><br />I've learned to be extremely wary of this fellow's pronouncements. Now that I've given the above tour, others may begin to feel wary too.unheimlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00204285837938988668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-66639106502410747372012-07-25T17:37:13.816-04:002012-07-25T17:37:13.816-04:00The two Groups in the '80's had nothing to...The two Groups in the '80's had nothing to do with Galvan. The both went belly up and dumped all their properties in the early '90's. One group owned 38 buildings which were then selling for as little as $28,000 in 1993, ie, the now Cascades, Ca mea, Mexican Radio, Gottlieb Galllery, etc, owned by one, the Curtis House, Opera House, Galloways own house on Alllen Street, the Benson House, and 415 Warren, (formerly Jolene's Hat Shop), owned by the other group. How far they fell and how far they rose and now fallen again,<br />In value I mean, but a long way fro '93. Galvan's future remains to be seen.<br /><br />The ones who have actually helped Hudson were, are, not the big groups, nor the politicians, but the individuals who have invested sweat equity in Hudson and they are the ones who deserve the credit and who will survive and overwhelm, because now they are many.Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14147241257381928706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-73663020204668363312012-07-25T15:14:43.212-04:002012-07-25T15:14:43.212-04:00The Collecting of Hudson also took place in the 19...The Collecting of Hudson also took place in the 1980's by two different groups both of which names do not recall. Is Galvan one? <br />One of the "Hudson Collectors" actually purchased a historical home in Claverack on Rt23B and had it dismantled and moved.<br />So here's an idea for your all of to consider.<br />Galvan Group, HPC,City of Hudson, NY State, etc. restore the Taylor House & the area warehouse(s)to a City of Hudson Museum.<br />Is the KAZ warehouse a site to restore sloops, to house whaling artifacts, to have revolving shows from other museums on whaling, Nantucket, private collections, etc.<br />Why not join together & make something positive from the Taylor House & surronding area.tmdonofriohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11370760970951114120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-87430523469567317502012-07-25T11:00:09.055-04:002012-07-25T11:00:09.055-04:00Mr. Mendolia,
As you are a member of the Board o...Mr. Mendolia, <br /><br />As you are a member of the Board of Directors of the Hudson Development Corporation, please defend your claim - and the claim you allege was made by the HDC - that "under the LWRP, that use [plastics] was not allowed." <br /><br />I've dutifully provided chapter and verse of the Hudson Code and LWRP above. As a result, citizens are now in a better position to make their own evaluations about your claim vis-a-vis the corruptly accomplished waterfront document. <br /><br />If you really wish to serve this community and not only yourself and your friends, it would be advisable to refrain from insulting members of the public, at least until you know what you are talking about.<br /><br />The fact that you would use your position on the HDC board to insult Hudson residents is an embarrassment to the HDC and to yourself.<br /><br />I await your reply and an apology.<br /><br />Thank you,<br /><br />Mr. O'Connorunheimlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00204285837938988668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-57565438084034819612012-07-25T09:15:58.817-04:002012-07-25T09:15:58.817-04:00The Kaz warehouse sits in the Residential Special ...The Kaz warehouse sits in the Residential Special Commercial District (R-S-C), which conditionally permits such "converting" processes as polyethylene extrusion.<br /><br />Far from asserting that such uses are "not allowed," the city's Zoning Code plus the consistency review language of the LWRP leave it open to judgement whether a particular "light industrial" use (i.e., a "facility which manufactures, designs, assembles, or processes a product") is "objectionable" or may be "incompatible with other uses of the district" (see the city's Zoning Code at "Definitions," under "Light Industry"). <br /><br />The City of Hudson Zoning Code at §325-13 lists among the conditional uses in an RSC District "(9) Assembling, converting, cleaning or any other processing of products within a fully enclosed building. Such processing shall be confined to light industry only."<br /><br />As for the supposed protections offered by the LWRP (simply recall who authored the offensive document), the LWRP states that "[a]ctions to be undertaken within the coastal area shall be evaluated for consistency in accordance with the following summary of LWRP policy standards."<br /><br />Among the LWRP policy standards already listed in the City of Hudson Code are "(a)... redevelop deteriorated and underutilized waterfront areas for commercial, industrial ... and other compatible uses ....; (b) .... strengthen the economic base of the harbor area .... ; (e) Expedite permit procedures ....; (k) Safeguard vital economic ... interests in the coastal area ..." (see §325-35.2-B(8)).<br /><br />When members of the HDC board aren't familiar with the city's Zoning Code or have no more than a passing familiarity with the LWRP, to whom are such decisions to be entrusted?<br /><br />The only way to decide whether I'm being unfair to the HDC board member - the one who was unfair to me above - is to fully understand the role of the Hudson Development Corporation, a quasi-political body, in making such judgements on taxpayer's behalves.unheimlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00204285837938988668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-61935637393504095002012-07-25T07:48:55.499-04:002012-07-25T07:48:55.499-04:00"unheimlech"--I'm curious to know ho..."unheimlech"--I'm curious to know how your interpretation of the LWRP on this particular point differs from Victor's.Carole Osterinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16010623982526286408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-82945297658084841382012-07-25T07:24:21.823-04:002012-07-25T07:24:21.823-04:00INCORRECT: "HDC properly rejected them becaus...INCORRECT: "HDC properly rejected them because under the LWRP, that use was not allowed."<br /><br />Victor, you've just proved that you don't understand the LWRP!! <br /><br />Few do.<br /><br />Anyway, I don't see where I was suggesting a conspiracy. I think it's a good idea: create a dog park to give the Taylor house a nicer setting where it already is.unheimlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00204285837938988668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-23010757927891006132012-07-25T05:30:23.410-04:002012-07-25T05:30:23.410-04:00It is said that the Roman Emperor Augustus eager t...It is said that the Roman Emperor Augustus eager to leave a visible legacy for his reign, claimed that he found Rome built in brick and left it in marble. Galloway, Hudson's current de facto Caesar, will be remembered as the one who found Hudson real and left it fake.Byrne Fone https://www.blogger.com/profile/11913646848760720991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-50046564909489163082012-07-24T23:26:58.720-04:002012-07-24T23:26:58.720-04:00Oh come on. Tim....give it a break. The Kaz Wareh...Oh come on. Tim....give it a break. The Kaz Warehouse is a pivotal building (property) on Hudson's waterfront. It may well be that the warehouse needs to be demolished and the toxics on site be remediated. <br />But to assume that every proposal that comes forward is a conspiracy, is ridiculous. <br /><br />The plastic extrusion company came to HDC with interest in the KAZ building. HDC properly rejected them because under the LWRP, that use was not allowed.<br /><br />The KAZ warehouse could easily be a mixed use development which embraces residential and commercial which is consistent with much of what you hold dear. But to assume that everything that is proposed will be accepted is ridiculous.<br /><br />Victor Mendoliavictorinhudsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00727070764427725170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-51496677608061703832012-07-24T22:01:48.990-04:002012-07-24T22:01:48.990-04:00Since I'm the one who suggested that keeping t...Since I'm the one who suggested that keeping the Taylor House where it is could be foundation for future development, I want to add a reminder (once again ad infinitum ) that the Supreme Court in 1976 upheld Landmark Preservation laws as a constitutionally justifiable extension of local City panning laws. (God knows what they would decide now, but luckily the precedent has not been legally challenged--unless Galvan wants to take it there. ) No doubt this decision would allow comment on future development plans as part of it decision making process.Scott Baldingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07030318150271846673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-51024780886949854182012-07-24T21:17:20.457-04:002012-07-24T21:17:20.457-04:00Perhaps Galvan can leave the Taylor house where it...Perhaps Galvan can leave the Taylor house where it is in exchange for accepting the Kaz warehouse at the same price our previous Mayor acquired it. <br /><br />The principle condition of the arrangement is that the warehouse be properly removed for the exclusive purpose of establishing a dog park. <br /><br />This would relieve the city of an asbestos liability, remove downwind wards of a potential noxious industry finding a home there, give us the dog park we need, and return the Taylor house environs to a more pleasant setting.unheimlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00204285837938988668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-13781238081440925382012-07-24T21:01:50.639-04:002012-07-24T21:01:50.639-04:00And what historical foundation that Galvan is alle...And what historical foundation that Galvan is allegedly emulating would approve of this ?<br /><br />Doris Duke just may return from the grave over this one.Vincenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05548912912359709568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-49074534886373942242012-07-24T18:27:28.311-04:002012-07-24T18:27:28.311-04:00Galvan's position is so outrageous that it wou...Galvan's position is so outrageous that it would almost be laughable, if it wasn't so tragic. Charging that the action of HPC denying a certificate of appropriateness amounts to a "taking" of private property is specious.<br /><br />If Mr. Galloway and company are not interested in restoring the many historic properties they own IN PLACE, perhaps he should divest himself of them and go build some brand new buildings (with columns of course) somewhere else.victorinhudsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00727070764427725170noreply@blogger.com