tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post8163976986306597789..comments2024-03-28T17:55:31.180-04:00Comments on The Gossips of Rivertown: HPC Votes to Approve Armory ProjectCarole Osterinkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16010623982526286408noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-14172650811263685692013-08-11T22:32:00.866-04:002013-08-11T22:32:00.866-04:00I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek, but thanks for ...I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek, but thanks for locating the actual documentation. <br /><br />In a city that's horrid about keeping its residents informed, shows nothing but contempt for people's opinions, and collaborates with Mr. Galloway on a Friday "news dump," it's safe to assume that this health center will begin at the lower end of definitional possibilities.<br /><br />"I used to be a heroin addict; now I'm a methadone addict" (Woody's elementary school classmate in "Annie Hall").unheimlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00204285837938988668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-744283375095085092013-08-11T20:07:34.581-04:002013-08-11T20:07:34.581-04:00Unheimlich I just looked at a white paper on the n...Unheimlich I just looked at a white paper on the nachc.org web site. Community health centers serve the poorest, least insured, most at risk people in our society. On site mental health and substance abuse services are important parts of the typical community health center offering. Sounds as though Mr. Lesawyer's reading is probably on the money. Methadone clinic could easily be right. <br /><br />Nice timing in letting Hudson know at the last minute and in having a significant change indeed presented as an afterthought to the overall project. Samuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16548850334066788444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-57934653473196666922013-08-11T17:02:11.027-04:002013-08-11T17:02:11.027-04:00Rather than answering the type of facility it woul...Rather than answering the type of facility it would be in the positive, it's probably easier nowadays to figure out what's NOT implied when someone proposes a "community health center."<br /><br />Search engines are helpful for individual subjects. For example, enter the phrase "substance abuse" into the search function of the National Association of Community Health Centers: <br /><br />http://www.nachc.org/<br /><br />This is a good way to discern whether the NACHC breaks such a category down further into types of facilities, or whether "substance abuse" services are generally implied when someone proposes a community health center. <br /><br />It appears to me that that service is generally implied, but I could be wrong. Either way, it's fun when Mr. Galloway makes us have to guess, isn't it?unheimlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00204285837938988668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-38168113285259800622013-08-11T15:56:03.245-04:002013-08-11T15:56:03.245-04:00Mr. LeSawyer . Your comment smacks of certainty. ...Mr. LeSawyer . Your comment smacks of certainty. Would you mind sharing with Gossips readers the source of your information regarding the type of medical facility being considered for the Armory?Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12239856988002201864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-42357083436310807622013-08-11T13:56:05.517-04:002013-08-11T13:56:05.517-04:00Wow this Galloway is really something. Long term p...Wow this Galloway is really something. Long term planner. Embedding key city services (e.g., the municipal Library) into his Infrastructure of Poverty. Pretty smart to put the methadone clinic in the same building and as Mr. Lesawyer said, to have lots of housing for the clients nearby. Some "Renaissance" for Hudson. Samuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16548850334066788444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-1805402183467254892013-08-11T09:22:39.634-04:002013-08-11T09:22:39.634-04:00...let me make this easier..."methadone clini......let me make this easier..."methadone clinic"..."needle exchange program"...now do we understand?...michael lesawyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13283350595244628737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-29032419800208065322013-08-11T08:33:25.719-04:002013-08-11T08:33:25.719-04:00"Community Health Center" ... ??????????..."Community Health Center" ... ???????????????????????Vincenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05548912912359709568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-30076553958615843112013-08-10T20:32:45.761-04:002013-08-10T20:32:45.761-04:00Empty lot in town, $50K. Give the lion his meal, l...Empty lot in town, $50K. Give the lion his meal, let him pay the fair market value.1Riparianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17248602693560230557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-65659027363178942202013-08-10T10:13:07.401-04:002013-08-10T10:13:07.401-04:00...Community Health Center?...you mean clinic?...d......Community Health Center?...you mean clinic?...did Columbia Memorial Hospital mention any plans for expansion? did they mention a need for this in our community? is this not a "significant" change to the plan? is this clinic going to be part of the clinic in the Bronx that specializes in homeless addicted males? you know, the ones that will be brought in to fill all the empty apartments that are now being warehoused but can't be yet because there is no "clinic". which building will be the "shelter"? where will the staff park? not at 4th and State St., that is a building site. that is actually four building lots and is actually bigger than the site of the county building at 4th and State, this is no "parking lot", it is the missing link, worth way more than the 72K appraised.<br /> Is there anything that HPC doesn't approve?michael lesawyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13283350595244628737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-75963218777289188302013-08-10T07:55:39.414-04:002013-08-10T07:55:39.414-04:00I'd raised a different issue before the HPC ye...I'd raised a different issue before the HPC yesterday in my first experience with the commission. This followed an email I sent yesterday to the HPC Chair, Rick Rector.<br /><br />At the meeting's break, I approached Mr. Rector and asked if I might have a chance to pose a question or two. <br /><br />Immediately and wrongly anticipating what my questions would be, he essentially instructed me that I could have no question which was applicable to the commission's function. My questions, he said, were to be directed to the Code Officer. His voice was raised for some reason, and in my own raised voice I asked him how he could know the content of a question I hadn't yet asked? He said not to "waste everyone's time."<br /><br />I regained my seat and waited my turn.<br /><br />At the meeting's end, in the New Business section, I inquired about the commission's past experiences reviewing actions by the city. Apparently this happened only once, the time the HPC weighed in on alterations at the 7th Street Park. I had hoped - alas in vain - that the HPC might express a similar concern over recent developments at the Promenade Park. As with the 7th Street Park, presumably the HPC may still offer input concerning municipal actions, though in a voluntary, ad hoc capacity.<br /><br />While thinking on my feet of some way to awaken a parallel interest among commission members in my own favorite city park, I was interrupted and hectored by the Chair, a continuation of what I'd experienced during the break.<br /><br />When I protested his interruptions, Mr. Rector instructed me in his own excited voice that the commission was a non-adversarial environment!<br /><br />In short, I was bullied. (Admittedly, I tend to infuriate bullies.) <br /><br />So I now know to avoid the HPC if I must. Uncomfortable questions are meant to issue from the commission and not the other way around.<br /><br />Even before I asked my question, I had already learned that there was no special distinction in the fact that the Common Council has jurisdiction over the Promenade park (both the mayor and the council are HPC exempt), and I accepted that there was no requirement for HPC members to express any concern whatsoever for the Promenade.<br /><br />Subsequently, the other interactions I had with commission members were polite exchanges. A few members made at least some effort to be helpful. <br /><br />Finally, I supported Mr. Thompson's specific qualifications about the Armory plans. I felt that his reasonable questions were insufficiently addressed by the petitioners.unheimlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00204285837938988668noreply@blogger.com