tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post2905702538474641421..comments2024-03-28T17:55:31.180-04:00Comments on The Gossips of Rivertown: HDC and SBKCarole Osterinkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16010623982526286408noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-65095090026812102772016-03-29T19:48:24.873-04:002016-03-29T19:48:24.873-04:00Odd that minority leaders who want in on a private...Odd that minority leaders who want in on a private (HDC) board now cry fowl. When 2nd ward constituents (fishermen) are removed from the people's shore at gunpoint, not a peep. As a (pre)historically protected minority they are entitled to unfettered access. <br /><br />Has SBK traded access through a merger with Sloops, for looking the other way?<br /><br />Stranger still, the silence of a 2nd ward supervisor, who has first hand knowledge of why this city should never assume the liability of shoreline stewardship.1Riparianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17248602693560230557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-84351142682259556622016-03-28T10:41:08.938-04:002016-03-28T10:41:08.938-04:00The people's shore couldn't have been both...The people's shore couldn't have been both held in trust and "sold outright" to Power boat unless both HDC and City officials agreed to betray the public trust.1Riparianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17248602693560230557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-2216077678541402102016-03-27T19:10:31.552-04:002016-03-27T19:10:31.552-04:00Readers who are interested should learn to differe...Readers who are interested should learn to differentiate between submerged land and state control of submersible land.<br /><br />High-water states include: Alabama, Alaska, California, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Louisiana, Maryland, Mississippi, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Texas, and Washington State.http://www.mcatoolkit.org/Overview/Definitions_Submerged_Lands.html1Riparianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17248602693560230557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-53660213633072004232016-03-26T15:28:40.927-04:002016-03-26T15:28:40.927-04:00Yes, I should be more specific: owned by The Peopl...Yes, I should be more specific: owned by The People of the State of New York. <br /><br />Thanks, that feels better.<br /><br />But the single parcel that includes the entire shoreline between the People-of-the-State-owned boat launch and Dock Street is owned by the Hudson Power Boat Association. The HDC sold it outright, on October 18, 1984, "in consideration of one dollar and 00/100 ($1.00) ... unto the party of the second part [HPBA] ... [and] its heirs and assigns forever" [Liber 557, p. 1007].unheimlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00204285837938988668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-46746689675714374462016-03-26T10:24:25.338-04:002016-03-26T10:24:25.338-04:00I have an issue with the "state owned" w...I have an issue with the "state owned" when owned by the people and delivered by the state is what happens elsewhere. Catskill Creek and Point, Murders Creek and Athens all have had their floats in for weeks and our city owned floats remain high and dry.<br /><br />It comes down to who's looking out for (serving) the greatest number of people. <br /><br />The people's shore between the state launch and North dock would make an excellent boardwalk connection between first and second wards yet HDC decides to contract yearly with Power Boat to deploy its floating fence, giving cabin cruise'n crackers from Coxsackie more access than life long residents of Hudsons. Strange, never a word on these issues from SBK or our representatives from the second ward.<br /><br />Then again, in the most corrupt state anything is possible... for the well heeled.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />1Riparianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17248602693560230557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-87245889886495801592016-03-26T00:34:28.704-04:002016-03-26T00:34:28.704-04:00Tell that to the Colarusso company, which is even ...Tell that to the Colarusso company, which is even now attempting to appropriate State-owned underwater lands at the riverfront.<br /><br />Defending the people's rights and interests takes nothing less than eternal vigilance.unheimlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00204285837938988668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-20157128782986008762016-03-25T10:53:20.745-04:002016-03-25T10:53:20.745-04:00So you're saying that the Supreme Court discov...So you're saying that the Supreme Court discovered the Magna Carta. <br /><br />Well then, that was real progress.unheimlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00204285837938988668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-839149660752827972016-03-25T07:05:14.155-04:002016-03-25T07:05:14.155-04:00"recall when the entire shoreline beneath the..."recall when the entire shoreline beneath the Promenade - from the State boat launch to North Bay - was sold for $1.00 to the Hudson Power Boat Association. (I'm sure they paid thousands, but that's not what the deed says.)"<br /><br />The U.S. Supreme Court subsequently confirmed that state governments cannot deny public rights to boat and fish on the waters within a state, “divesting all the citizens of a common right. It would be a grievance which never could be long borne by a free people.” The Court held that state governments must maintain the public’s “common liberty” to boat and fish in shallow rivers, including stretches adjacent to private land. The Court said that these waters must be “held as a public trust for the benefit of the whole community, to be freely used by all for navigation and fishery.” (Google Martin v. Waddell 1842 to see the decision.) - See more at: http://www.nationalrivers.org/freedom-to-use-rivers.html#sthash.AZhiImI9.dpuf1Riparianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17248602693560230557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-12946796882472065822016-03-24T19:32:53.420-04:002016-03-24T19:32:53.420-04:00I don't think the HDC (or anyone else, for tha...I don't think the HDC (or anyone else, for that matter) wants him on the Board, any more than he wants to be categorized as a "person of color", unless the color is green. But I do think the HDC would be well advised to adopt a more pro-active stance in taking on new Directors. Yes, everyone needs to become educated -- but education has two parts. It's mighty hard to learn if there is no one who wants to teach. And if you want someone at the table, the best approach is to invite them.White Whale Limitedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07600048500466092214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-88553695524452819162016-03-24T18:43:07.602-04:002016-03-24T18:43:07.602-04:00One problem with having so many people from govern...One problem with having so many people from government serving on the HDC was the perception that it was a cozy place for politicians to carry out business by other, unaccountable means. <br /><br />Real estate deals would be conducted contrary to what the HDC was publicly announcing, such as the surprise sale of the knitting mill, or looking further back, recall when the entire shoreline beneath the Promenade - from the State boat launch to North Bay - was sold for $1.00 to the Hudson Power Boat Association. (I'm sure they paid thousands, but that's not what the deed says.)<br /><br />The HDC has a Code of Ethics, but it must be entirely voluntary! Who but its members can appreciate the way in which that strange hybrid of government and private sector is really run - and maybe its members who aren't in government don't really know either.<br /><br />If the HDC is finally trying to fix its horrible image problem, then that should be encouraged. Unfortunately for some politicians, that means they'll have to go. But so be it.<br /><br />New members should be vetted on merit, and also according to how they might enrich the HDC's mission and purpose. Candidates must be able to point to their accomplishments in some or all of the HDC's following criteria: <br /><br />• Relieving and reducing unemployment;<br /><br />• Promoting and enhancing employment opportunities;<br /><br />• Instructing or training individuals to improve or develop skills;<br /><br />• Conducting scientific research to attract or retain industry; and<br /><br />• Lessen the burdens of government and acting in the public interest.<br />unheimlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00204285837938988668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-63643440383661978942016-03-23T22:39:09.648-04:002016-03-23T22:39:09.648-04:00This is insane.
The person who effectively contro...This is insane. <br />The person who effectively controls development in Hudson, hoards buildings, leaving them vacant, taking them out of the rental market and thumbing his nose at providing "affordable" housing, is a person of color. Observerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07476845411516796463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-63726052143558810462016-03-23T15:07:19.150-04:002016-03-23T15:07:19.150-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.unheimlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00204285837938988668noreply@blogger.com