tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post9163698090334833897..comments2024-03-28T14:37:17.081-04:00Comments on The Gossips of Rivertown: Highlights from the Common Council MeetingCarole Osterinkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16010623982526286408noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-10085921609770594442018-10-19T12:15:12.684-04:002018-10-19T12:15:12.684-04:00Raoul Duke, who ever you are (we know what you are...Raoul Duke, who ever you are (we know what you are -- someone who's afraid to say who they are so a coward): I'm disgraced? It is disgraceful that I'm not aware of that! Be happy to have a discussion with you about the nature of my disgrace any time you are willing to be grown-up enough to introduce yourself to me like a man or a woman. John K. Friedmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16514407793203424954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-12169133702228051672018-10-19T11:50:15.077-04:002018-10-19T11:50:15.077-04:00Raoul Duke, I suspect a simpler treatment is neede...Raoul Duke, I suspect a simpler treatment is needed here.<br /><br />By injecting a question of race where it clearly does not belong in hopes of exploiting racial differences, you've only opened yourself to the charge of racism. <br /><br />Your ugly accusation is not a lens but a mirror.unheimlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00204285837938988668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-42977452778946592242018-10-19T10:15:21.431-04:002018-10-19T10:15:21.431-04:00Raoul Duke, please note that the former Alderman w...Raoul Duke, please note that the former Alderman wrote "if": "if either of you are members." <br /><br />That's the issue the two current Aldermen should have addressed, and not whether they are "with the board" which is something Gossips never suggested. <br /><br />They could as easily have replied they are not members of the congregation, as you suggest, and they still can do so.<br /><br />Earlier this year a member of the Planning Board claimed there was no conflict of interest in a particular vote when it was obvious to me there was. Everyone accepted the Board member's self-account, and there was great indignation that a member of the public was questioning a City official.<br /><br />When the question was referred to the County Board of Ethics, however, the conflict of interest the other Planning Board members were utterly blind to was suddenly visible to all.<br /><br />So to write, as you have, that "if they say there is no conflict of interest then we should believe them" is to misunderstand our experiment in self-governance. But I suspect you've deliberately misunderstood in order to make the gratuitous and mischievous charge of "racism." <br /><br />If that's so, as I suspect, then fellow readers would be well advised to study your comments in future for their potential disingenuousness and trouble-making.<br />unheimlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00204285837938988668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-69434752564252313672018-10-19T00:44:35.522-04:002018-10-19T00:44:35.522-04:00Isn't it a rather nasty and racist assumption ...Isn't it a rather nasty and racist assumption to make that Mr. Sarowar and Shershah are members of this particular congregation?<br /><br />Perhaps they are not members of this particular congregation. Perhaps they are atheists. Perhaps they are Christians. <br /><br />If they say there is no conflict of interest, then we should believe them. Why should anyone listen to a disgraced former alderman's grumblings otherwise?<br />raoul dukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05579749314920195945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-16793645599851277862018-10-17T14:55:22.035-04:002018-10-17T14:55:22.035-04:00Yes now I see, "members" versus "bo...Yes now I see, "members" versus "board members" is not a meaningful distinction.unheimlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00204285837938988668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-28004104965405541812018-10-17T13:59:34.042-04:002018-10-17T13:59:34.042-04:00Membership on the board is not the issue; being a ...Membership on the board is not the issue; being a member of the congregation is and, if either of you are members of that congregation, then you need to recuse yourselves from the discussion about and the votes on the measure in question.John K. Friedmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16514407793203424954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-47268721019976478872018-10-17T10:30:20.301-04:002018-10-17T10:30:20.301-04:00The Planning Board recommendation is reasonable, a...The Planning Board recommendation is reasonable, and no one should be surprised if and when Stewart's assents to it. (For a contrast between good- and bad-faith actors, try and imagine the current owner of the South Bay agreeing to laws which existed before the property ever changed hands.)<br /><br />Following the Public Hearing, the "repair manual" principles will likely be incorporated into the draft law. That was surely the sequence the Council President had in mind all along.<br /><br />I also appreciate Mr. Sarowar's clarification above. There was no call for recusals after all.unheimlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00204285837938988668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5723709701684173708.post-74222142669230456632018-10-17T09:02:22.210-04:002018-10-17T09:02:22.210-04:00This is Dewan Sarowar Alderman for 2nd Word. I sta...This is Dewan Sarowar Alderman for 2nd Word. I stated that Me and Alderman Mizan are not with board of Hudson Islamic Center. This is a wrong information. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01819866988661286670noreply@blogger.com