Sunday, August 21, 2016

Git 'Er Dunn

At the July meeting of the Common Council Economic Development Committee, Alderman Rick Rector (First Ward), who chairs the committee, proposed two initiatives for the committee: the development of the Dunn building, the last surviving historic building on the waterfront; and legislation to ban "formula businesses" from the city. On the subject of the Dunn building, there was talk of a special meeting to discuss preparing a request for proposals (RFP) for the Dunn building, but no such meeting was scheduled. Instead, the committee devoted its meeting on Thursday exclusively to moving forward with plans to develop the Dunn building. Rector told his colleagues on the committee--John Friedman (Third Ward) and Alexis Keith (Fourth Ward) were present; Henry Haddad (Third Ward) was not--that Mayor Tiffany Martin Hamilton was "aware and supportive of the Economic Development Committee's initiative."

The meeting went on for more than an hour and a half, and much was discussed. With the three committee members on the dais were Sheena Salvino, executive director of HDC and HCDPA, and Bill Roehr from TGW Consultants. The only people in the audience were Damara Stolfo, who is spearheading the Hudson Praxis initiative; Don Moore, former Common Council president and now Third Ward supervisor; and Gossips. 

Roehr, who, it was determined, will write the request for proposal (RFP), was enthusiastic about the project, stressing how useful the Saratoga Associates feasible study will be in attracting interested developers. "All the ducks are in a row," he declared. Roehr explained that there were two ways to approach an RFP: (1) to indicate the uses the City is looking for; (2) to indicate the uses the City does not want. He, however, recommended a third approach: "present a sense of what you are and are not looking for, but don't box the developers in. . . . Keep the use part open but give them some bounds. . . .not so tightly locking someone in as to stifle creativity." The committee seemed to agree that the third approach should be taken.

A number of decisions about moving forward were made at Thursday's meeting, which were summarized at the end of the meeting by the chair, Rick Rector:
  • The City will contract with Hudson Development Corporation to have Sheena Salvino administer the project while the City retains control. Salvino and committee member John Friedman will work on the contract between the City and HDC for Salvino's services.
  • The City will obtain three appraisals for the property: the Dunn building alone; the building with the four acres of vacant land to the north; the four acres of vacant land alone. There was also talk of the RFP giving those three options for proposals. [Gossips Note: Although appraisals will be done, the City does not intend to sell the property. Rather the plan is to enter into a long-term (thirty years or more) triple net lease with a developer.]
  • The Economic Development Committee will seek National Register designation for the building so that the project can benefit from historic preservation tax credits
  • When the draft RFP has been prepared, there will be a public hearing, which will be the community's opportunity to critique the RFP and provide input.
  • The four aldermen who make up the Economic Development Committee will make the ultimate decision about which if any of the proposals received will be accepted. 


When an audience member reminded the committee that whatever happened with the Dunn building would be the catalyst for future waterfront development and suggested that the committee was moving forward with inadequate opportunities for public input, Don Moore, who chaired the Economic Development Committee for the six years that he was Common Council president, argued that the RFP would not depart from the feasibility study, and there had already been "considerable input" on that document. If memory serves, there was a "kickoff meeting" with Saratoga Associates at the end of March 2015, which did not involve the public, and two meetings in the summer of 2015, after the study had been completed--one on July 1, to which the public was not invited, and another on August 5, which was open to the public. 

At the moment, there seems to be no community consensus on one of the biggest questions for the waterfront: What should be done with the four acres of vacant land between the Dunn building and the Ferry Street Bridge? Should it be additional parkland and green space? Should it be used primarily for parking? Should additional buildings with as yet unknown uses be constructed there?

The 1996 Vision Plan proposed mixed use residential and commercial buildings for this vacant space along Water Street.

The Dunn Warehouse Adaptive Reuse Study proposes essentially the same thing.

It  was never clear that this was the kind of waterfront development the people of Hudson wanted in 1996, and it is not clear today. A community conversation on the subject of this vacant land seems to be in order.
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12 comments:

  1. This looks promising, but I urge the City to include multiple public hearings on the RFP, institute a "traveling" public hearing process to facilitate such public input, and a healthy comment section opportunities on the City's website and/or opportunities for voters to submit written comments. After that, instead of just 4 aldermen picking "which of the proposals will be accepted," an input report should be created and presented to the entire CC for a decision. IMHO. --peter meyer

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  2. I agree that much more public input is required, and multiple Public Hearings.

    Without any understanding of the future parking needs at the waterfront, I maintain that the simplistic proposal to green over the empty lot between the Dunn building and Ferry Street is an attempt to one day force a parking solution south of the Colarusso yard.

    After all, that IS the misguided plan of the 2011 LWRP, and the expanded lawn idea is usually associated with the champions of the LWRP.

    Earlier this year, however, we learned about a soil developed at Cornell which resists compaction, and allows for meadows which can double as parking lots. The Cornell graduate school for landscape design proposed such a "parking meadow" south of Basilica and L&B, to cover over the old landfill and to create usable open space in South Bay.

    Probably only a few of us would like to see a proper meadow south Ferry Street, but the point is that all available alternatives merit a full airing. For those who remember what I'm talking about, we'd need to know every specification and potential of this engineered soil, not to mention the cost.

    In the meantime, please don't fall for any green-sounding proposals which fail to account for our present and future parking needs. The negative consequences aren't apparent without taking a much closer look.

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  3. What's in the new Federal Flood Risk Management Standard?

    The standard requires, for the first time to such a comprehensive degree, that all new or rebuilt federally funded projects in and around a floodplain must account for the impacts of climate change. It specifically calls for both current and future flood risk in a project's siting, planning and construction. The standard also encourages agencies to use green, or nature-based, approaches when designing projects...
    https://insideclimatenews.org/news/20150203/want-build-federal-funds-new-order-requires-planning-future-flood-risk

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  4. Joe does this mean there will be no federal money for the Dunn warehouse? no money for the L&B project? does the city continue to pay these project planners? can we now disband HDC?

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  5. I'd like to see the building used as a maritime museum documenting Hudson's whaling history. In addition, it should be the permanent home of the Hudson Sloop Club.

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  6. For a good example of what could be accomplished with the Dunn Building and surrounding land, take a look at the website of the Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum.

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  7. The Hudson-Athens lighthouse could be a centerpiece of our maritime museum.

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  8. Here's a link to a very nice map of CBMM's 18-acre waterfront campus (which includes a nice restaurant with great views of the bay).
    http://cbmm.org/visit/campus-map/

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  9. Perhaps the Hudson River Maritime Museum in Kingston would be interested in being a partner in such a project. Our buildings in Hudson could be an extension of the Kingston campus.

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  10. Those are all really good ideas, jkhunka.

    One problem, though, this is Hudson. If you're not actually in government, you're ideas and opinions mean next to nothing.

    I can assure you with enough recent examples to make your stomach turn, very little has changed in Hudson. I doubt it ever will.

    Those are great ideas though, really.

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  11. To avoid direct competition with the maritime museum in Kingston, perhaps Hudson's exhibits could focus on whaling, like those at the New Bedford Whaling Museum, described by Wikipedia as follows:

    "The museum, through its collections and exhibitions, tells the story of the international whaling industry and the history more generally of the "Old Dartmouth" region situated along the south coast of Massachusetts. Governed by the Old Dartmouth Historical Society (ODHS), the museum collection contains over 750,000 items, including 3,000 pieces of scrimshaw and 2,500 logbooks (handwritten accounts of whaling voyages), both of which are the largest collections in the world.

    The Museum also houses an extensive collection of fine art, including works by major American artists who lived or worked in the New Bedford area, such as Albert Bierstadt, William Bradford, and Albert Pinkham Ryder, as well as significant collections of locally produced art, glass, furniture, and other decorative arts that flourished as a result of the wealth that whaling brought to New Bedford in the 19th century.

    The whale ship Lagoda, the world's largest ship model, is housed at the central core of the museum in the Jonathan Bourne Building, purpose-built in 1915 for the construction of the Lagoda. With an overall length of 59' and a mainmast 50' in height, the Lagoda is fully rigged and outfitted for an extended whaling voyage. The Whaling Museum complex includes 20 exhibit galleries housed within several contiguous historic buildings occupying an entire city block within New Bedford Whaling National Historical Park."

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  12. On page 84 of "Historic Hudson" by Byrne Fone, there's an engraving of "A sperm oil and candle factory in Hudson circa 1841." Imagine creating a reconstruction of that building, with exhibits on the ground floor, and a restaurant on the second floor with huge windows facing the river where diners can watch the sun set over the Catskills and watch boats -- including the S.S. Columbia -- go by. Wound't that be amazing?

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