Wednesday, July 5, 2017

Meeting Reminder

Tomorrow, July 6, Bill Krattinger, the staff member from the National Register Unit of the State Historic Preservation Office whose territory includes Columbia County, will pay a visit to the former Furgary Boat Club--a.k.a. Shantytown, North Dock, and the Shacks. 

Photo: SHPO
After the site visit, Krattinger will meet with the mayor and members of the Common Council to discuss state and national historic designation for the site. That meeting will take place at 4 p.m. at City Hall.


  1. 18 us code s 241

    If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

  2. Joe, you seem to think that North Bay belongs to you, but it belongs to everyone now. Only out of that reality can anyone pursue their interests, and hopefully to harmonize those interests with those of others.

    Nothing you've ever written here precludes others' enjoyments of the site, (except when it appeared you were threatening the shacks with fire), so what's your problem? I really don't get it.

    In your riddling way, you were clever never to say what kind of realistic future you see there. No one other than the City can ever own the site again, so what else do you suggest?

    If the City can someday lease out a shack, then I suggest that we first "Save the Shacks" and then take it from there.

    If you think there's a conspiracy in this, then maybe you're simply a destructive person. I admit that I suspect as much, seeing how you whip up people's passions. But anyone will tell you that I always reserve a place for your reasonable participation.

    You might begin by making a reasonable proposal, which will be your first.

    The City owns the camps, and that's the overriding circumstance which must frame anyone's "reasonableness."

    1. It's time to make the case that the (only) reason for five/six years of fencing at N Dock is to keep tin boat fishermen from reaching the eastern shore.

  3. There once was room for tin boats and kayakers.

  4. Those that fail to study history are destined to repeat it...

    without any proof I know: that this is the same fight that happened 150 years ago, county fisherfolk won because the path they leave is wide, flat, free and easy to follow.

  5. Please tell me you agree that yesterday's meeting was a success.

    SHPO's message was that things can move forward now premised on the community's desires. The desire expressed most strongly was the one which you and I agree upon.

    The only question I have - and more than any question I'd now put to the City - is whether or not we'll achieve your ends with or without your support. Please tell me we agree that the latter would be absurd!

    Thanks to the mayor we can do this now; we can move our interests forward. But to be effective, we've simply got to suck up the City's waste of the last five years. That chapter is officially ended, though it would help if everyone desired it to be ended. This is also up to us.

    For the first time in five years the momentum is on our side. It's time to up our game.

    1. Nothing is impossible working together. Imagine if we had "collaborated" from jump...less taxpayer dollars, more use and users.

    2. Exactly: nothing is impossible when we work together.

      And there's no longer any need to "imagine if" when the circumstances currently allow "imagining when."

      All of us got this far together, let's not walk away now thinking we can leave this in the hands of the City.

      The guy from SHPO said it best: it's up to us now, and I didn't take him to mean "up to the Common Council."

      I hope we got the point across to the City that we don't need State permissions, State grants, contractors, bidding processes [etc.] to achieve what people always managed to do without the government's "help."

      We can do this, but we need to work together and to sometimes entertain odd interests which really don't impact our own interests. I know we can do this.